OpenAI’s Secret ‘Garlic’ Model, C3 AI’s Turnaround Plan, Robotics and D.C. | Dec 4, 2025

Episode Description

The Information's Catherine Perloff talks with TITV Host Akash Pasricha about web publishers' confusion over whether heightened traffic is from humans or bots, and the companies providing bot-blocking solutions. We also speak with C3 AI new CEO Steven Ehikian about fixing sales execution issues following falling revenue and his plan to reenergize the company. Then, we speak with The Information's Stephanie Palazzolo about OpenAI's new model code-named 'Garlic' to counter Google's Gemini 3, and the 'split brain problem' models are facing. Lastly, we get into the new US robotics policy, the tariff-induced rising costs of robot components, and Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei's strategy against OpenAI with The Information's Rocket Drew.

Articles discussed on this episode:

https://www.theinformation.com/articles/openai-pivots-counter-gemini-3

https://www.theinformation.com/articles/inside-web-publishers-quest-stamp-ai-bots-posing-humans

https://www.theinformation.com/articles/anthropics-ceo-says-code-reds

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