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OpenAI Acquires Windsurf for $3B, Google’s Stock Dips

By Jessica E. Lessin · May 9, 2025 12:22pm PDT

A vibe coding vibe check, the M&A uptick and VC goes retail on this week’s More or Less. Apple Spotify A vibe coding vibe check, the M&A uptick and VC goes retail on this week’s More or Less. ...

Trump’s Chaos & AI’s China Threat (with Joanna Coles)

By Jessica E. Lessin · Apr 11, 2025 2:58pm PDT

Jessica is joined by Daily Beast Chief Content Officer Joanna Coles to discuss the latest secret tech confabs and this wild, wild week. Apple Spotify Jessica is joined by Daily Beast Chief Content Officer Joanna Coles to discuss the latest secret...

Can Tesla Survive? And the Future of OpenAI

By Jessica E. Lessin · Apr 4, 2025 3:50pm PDT

On this week’s More or Less: The battle lines are drawn on OpenAI. Apple Spotify On this week’s More or Less: The battle lines are drawn on OpenAI. Apple Spotify

Google’s $32B Deal and a Silicon Valley Spy Scandal!

By Jessica E. Lessin · Mar 21, 2025 11:14am PDT

Google’s $32B Deal and a Silicon Valley Spy Scandal!

By Jessica E. Lessin · Mar 21, 2025 11:14am PDT

On this week’s More or Less: Google’s $32B deal and a Silicon Valley spy scandal! Apple Spotify On this week’s More or Less: Google’s $32B deal and a Silicon Valley spy scandal! Apple Spotify ...

Silicon Valley Unscripted: Billionaires, AI, and Interplanetary Exploration

By Jessica E. Lessin · Mar 14, 2025 11:49am PDT

In this week’s episode: Waymo, Larry Page, TikTok and our first $1 million More or Less bet. YouTube Spotify In this week’s episode: Waymo, Larry Page, TikTok and our first $1 million More or Less bet....

Meta’s Data Center Bet, Instagram Reels & The Future of Content

By Jessica E. Lessin · Feb 28, 2025 1:06pm PST

This week on More or Less: On the ground at the Upfront Summit, Instagram’s new idea, and what’s coming for consumer. Apple Spotify This week on More or Less: On the ground at the Upfront Summit, Instagram’s new idea, and...

Elon’s $97B Curveball For OpenAI

By Jessica E. Lessin · Feb 14, 2025 2:19pm PST

On More or Less: The gang discusses Elon’s latest curveball. Apple Spotify On More or Less: The gang discusses Elon’s latest curveball. Apple Spotify

China’s DeepSeek Shakes the Tech World

By Jessica E. Lessin · Jan 31, 2025 2:29pm PST

China’s DeepSeek Shakes the Tech World

By Jessica E. Lessin · Jan 31, 2025 2:29pm PST

This week on More or Less: DeepSeek, memes and Dave quits social media. Apple Spotify This week on More or Less: DeepSeek, memes and Dave quits social media. Apple Spotify YouTube ...

Trump Inauguration, Stargate, and the Meme Economy

By Jessica E. Lessin · Jan 24, 2025 10:35am PST

On this week's More or Less: Silicon Valley goes to Trump's inauguration and the truth behind Stargate. Apple Spotify On this week's More or Less: Silicon Valley goes to Trump's inauguration and the truth...

TikTok, Trade Wars & Tech 2.0

By Jessica E. Lessin · Jan 17, 2025 12:22pm PST

This week on More or Less: TikTok and the coming digital trade war. Apple Spotify This week on More or Less: TikTok and the coming digital trade war. Apple Spotify

Meta’s Community Notes: More Speech and Fewer Mistakes?

By Jessica E. Lessin · Jan 10, 2025 11:58am PST

This week on More or Less: The group takes sides on Meta's moderation overhaul. Plus, why we are happy we skipped CES. Apple Spotify This week on More or Less: The group takes sides on Meta's moderation overhaul. Plus, why we...

How to Move Forward After Forward (with Adrian Aoun)

By Jessica E. Lessin · Nov 22, 2024 10:19am PST · 1 comment

How to Move Forward After Forward (with Adrian Aoun)

By Jessica E. Lessin · Nov 22, 2024 10:19am PST · 1 comment

Most founders stay silent about their failures. Instead, Adrian Aoun, who just shut down his health care company Forward after raising nearly half a billion dollars, accepted our invitation to come on the pod. I really enjoyed our conversation, which holds a lot of lessons for founders. And I couldn't help get some sharp questions in myself.... Most founders stay silent about their failures. Instead, Adrian Aoun, who just shut down his...

Elon to Lead D.O.G.E., Bitcoin Surges & the Trump Alliance

By Jessica E. Lessin · Nov 15, 2024 3:43pm PST · 2 comments

This week on More or Less: A shift in the Silicon Valley narrative and why D.O.G.E. is not X. Plus, Jessica's new investment and Brit's new hair. Apple Podcasts Spotify This week on More or Less: A shift in the Silicon Valley narrative and why D.O.G.E. is not...

Trump’s Influencer Strategy and the Future of Apps (with Guillermo Rauch!)

By Jessica E. Lessin · Nov 8, 2024 10:38am PST

This week on More or Less: The media lessons to take away from the presidential campaign. Plus, why you are probably building your apps wrong. Enjoy! Transcript below. Apple Spotify This week on More or Less: The media lessons to take away from the presidential campaign. Plus,...

Big Tech Earnings and the AI Revolution

By Jessica E. Lessin · Nov 1, 2024 1:39pm PDT

This week on More or Less: Earnings from Meta, Alphabet and Microsoft explained. Plus, Bezos's big bind at the Washington Post. Enjoy! Apple Spotify This week on More or Less: Earnings from Meta, Alphabet and Microsoft explained. Plus,...

Apple’s Vision Seems Out of Focus

By Jessica E. Lessin · Oct 26, 2024 9:00am PDT · 2 comments

Apple’s Vision Seems Out of Focus

By Jessica E. Lessin · Oct 26, 2024 9:00am PDT · 2 comments

This week on More or Less: A feisty debate over Vision Pro and words of concern for all VCs. Plus, the latest in tech body hacking. Hope you enjoy! Spotify YouTube This week on More or Less: A feisty debate over Vision Pro and words of concern for all VCs....

Robots, Rockets, and Elon Hype

By Jessica E. Lessin · Oct 18, 2024 2:20pm PDT · 1 comment

This week, we shared some of the things we're loving about tech right now—although we weren't without our disagreements. Plus, the latest with Elon Musk and the Lessin's new home tech problem. Apple Spotify This week, we shared some of the things we're loving about tech right...

Google’s Antitrust Saga Continues

By Jessica E. Lessin · Oct 11, 2024 6:49pm PDT

Could a breakup be good for Google? The gang had a lot to debate and discuss. Plus, Jessica recaps The Information's WTF. Enjoy! Apple Spotify Could a breakup be good for Google? The gang had a lot to debate and discuss. Plus, Jessica...

Meta vs. Apple: the Future of Open vs. Closed Tech

By Jessica E. Lessin · Sep 13, 2024 10:46am PDT · 1 comment

Perhaps I was a little too harsh on Sam and Dave in this episode when I accused them each of blindly following their favorite tech CEO. But that's part of the fun of More or Less, where we give you our real views on people and companies—and call each other out on our quirks. I enjoyed this episode very much. It's the kind... Perhaps I was a little too harsh on Sam and Dave in this episode when I accused them each of...

An AI rendering of the gang at Burning Man. Credit: Runway and Pica.

Telegram, Free Speech and Its Limits

By Jessica E. Lessin · Aug 30, 2024 10:36am PDT

An AI rendering of the gang at Burning Man. Credit: Runway and Pica.

Telegram, Free Speech and Its Limits

By Jessica E. Lessin · Aug 30, 2024 10:36am PDT

Should you have free speech inside America if you are not an American? That was one of the meaty questions we discussed this week, following the arrest of Telegram founder Pavel Durov. The gang took the opportunity to check in on deeper questions that remain unanswered about freedom of speech and censorship. While the topic can feel... Should you have free speech inside America if you are not an American? That was one of...